Friday, June 21, 2024

Venom: Let There Be Carnage supposedly has a ‘Coming Out’ scene

It’s been reported via The Hollywood Reporter that there will be a ‘coming out‘ scene for Venom, the symbiote that lives within Eddie Brock’s body, in Venom: Let There Be Carnage.

When it comes to shipping, Venom and Eddie have always been no.1 for fans of the two characters – despite one being a literal pile of talking alien mud. Regardless of how we might feel about that particular tidbit that shippers seemed to have glossed over, the previous film had Eddie half-hating the symbiote and half-realizing that he needs it to survive. It’s a tricky situation to be in for Brock.

However, according to director Andy Serkis, the next film looks as though it might lean into the LGBTQIA angle for the relationship between Eddie and Venom. As Serkis tells Uproxx, there is a scene in where the two of them go to an LGBTQIA festival of sorts and it’s there where the symbiote has a “coming out party.”

To be clear, the director states that during this scene, Venom says “We must stop this cruel treatment of aliens” and as such, “inadvertently” speaks for the freedom of “the other.” What this means isn’t made explicitly clear, but we assume it’s meant to imply that Venom is speaking for the rights of the LGBTQIA+ community to love who they want and to be treated fairly. Which is nice… coming from an alien symbiote and all.

However, it’s Serkis’ response to the statement that “it’s very obvious that Eddie and Venom are in love” that should interest fans intrigued by the relationship between Eddie and Venom.

“Absolutely they do love each other and that’s the kind of the center of the movie is that love affair, that central love affair,” Serkis says.

While it’s been said for years that Eddie and Venom’s relationship is one of love, but that doesn’t neccessarily mean love in the romantic sense. In the comics, it’s often portrayed as deep affection, or of comrades-in-arms, and even that is a position the symbiotically linked pair has taken decades (of real time; comic-time is wonky) to get to. Their union was first borne of mutual hatred for Spider-Man, and has endured years of unhealthy co-dependency. Although they have had “children” together – including Carnage and more recent symbiote spawn such as Sleeper – Marvel’s symbiotes reproduce asexually, spawning new offspring from their own organic matter.

It also brings up the question of whether we should be looking for gay representation in Eddie and Venom in the first place. Are we that starved of gay representation in our media that we’ll settle for a man and a piece of space mud? That feels borderline offensive.

We’ll be honest, we’re a little skeptical when it comes to big Hollywood names stating that there’s a ‘coming out’ scene from a big franchise like Marvel. Even though Venom isn’t part of the ‘main’ Marvel Cinematic Universe, previous Marvel films have offered a low point of their “first gay character” being a grieving civilian in a support group, while Disney’s Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker offered only a background lesbian kiss designed to be edited out in more conservative countries.

We’ll find out whether Venom: Let There Be Carnage brings queerbaiting or a genuine love story between Eddie and Venom – with a coming out scene to boot – when it releases this October 15th.

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